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Columbus Tournament Wrap-Up

• The Beer Leaguer • Season 2 • Episode 11

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Mason joins the show to talk about our experience traveling to the BLPA Bash in Columbus. We talk about the tournament on and off the ice. How it differed from previous years, what we liked and what we would change, and how it was taking our own team this year.

Plus, I think I learned the secret to doing well at these BLPA events. 

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THE_BEER_LEAGUER:

Hey, everyone, and welcome to another edition of The Beer Leaguer Podcast. On this episode, joined once again by Mason.

MASON:

Hey-ho.

THE_BEER_LEAGUER:

And we're actually gonna talk about a tournament that we just recently went and played at, the BLPA Bash down in Columbus, Ohio. So kind of give a recap of all the good, possibly bad, and everything that kind of went on, on ice, off ice, and I think just kind of talk about going to travel tournaments again in general, but specifically also some of the stuff that went on to our... This is our third time going to one of these BLPA events, I believe.

MASON:

Yeah, third time. First full team. Yeah, first time we're in a split team together.

THE_BEER_LEAGUER:

Yeah. So it was my first time tapping, which was a little different.

MASON:

Yeah.

THE_BEER_LEAGUER:

So, yeah, I guess let's just start, first off, I think start off overall. Overall with everything. How do you feel the weekend experience was? Everything.

MASON:

Off ice, on ice. Yeah. The whole kit and caboodle.

THE_BEER_LEAGUER:

I think it was...

MASON:

It's a good tournament. It's... It is a tournament, so it's... You never know what you're going to get. But it's good to hang. Free food, free beer in the parking lot on Saturday. It makes a lot of fun. Overall, pretty great tournament.

THE_BEER_LEAGUER:

Yeah, I agree. I think it's a super fun thing to do. And, you know, like we said, it's kind of a... It's a bring-your-own-team tournament, because BLPA does do the draft tournaments, more like you sign up as an individual and you wind up with a bunch of strangers. This is bring-your-team, play some other teams kind of thing, a more traditional, I'd say, beer league tournament.

MASON:

And they did have that free agent team this year, which sounded interesting. They didn't get a goalie for it, so I don't think they did very well, but yeah, I thought that was interesting.

THE_BEER_LEAGUER:

Yeah. Yeah, we talked to some of those guys while we were there, and yeah, it did sound interesting. They also got moved up, but I don't know if it's that's because there were more worse teams that pushed them up, or if they got more better people that made them have to be up. Yeah.

MASON:

Yeah, I'm not sure.

THE_BEER_LEAGUER:

And the great thing was you couldn't ask the guys. We talked to two guys that were playing on that, and they had no idea, because the one guy forgot the tournament was that weekend.

MASON:

Right.

THE_BEER_LEAGUER:

And the other guy was like, I don't know, I just showed up. I don't I might be playing goalie. I don't know, I might be skating out. I don't know. You know, they really didn't know what was happening. But yeah, I know, I agree. I think it's a ton of fun tournament. As far as putting together a tournament like this, I feel it's done really well from like an administrative standpoint, because it's very smooth. And from a leveling standpoint, I think it's done from what I've seen and what I saw, about as good as you're probably going to get.

MASON:

Yeah, that's kind of what I mean when I say it's a tournament. You don't know what you're going to get. So this year, we were pretty competitive, which was really nice. But we definitely played a team that we had no business playing. And another team was pretty close to our level. And then another team was right on par with us, I would say, if not a little better. So it was done pretty well. I mean, one out of three isn't terrible.

THE_BEER_LEAGUER:

Yeah. And that's, like I said, I get how it's tough to do that. For background on it, for these BLPA tournaments, and I'm going to strictly speak to the bash tournaments, because I've never done draft tournaments, so maybe it's different. So when I refer to these things, only talking the bash tournaments, is there is kind of a lengthy form to fill out. I've done other tournaments and they just ask your basic info and then, hey, are you on a team or not? Usually, it's the captain fills out what level you are, and that's kind of it, and they're going on the honor system. Whereas this one, they asked you a lot of questions on, where had you played? How long have you been playing? How good have you been doing in where you've been playing? Which I think was good. I think it helped.

MASON:

Yeah, it sounds like Nick does a ton. Nick is the guy that organizes it. It sounds like he does a ton of research. I don't know how much of it. According to his email, he does a ton of research. He could be pulling the wool over our eyes, but it seems like he puts a ton of work into it and really tries hard to make it fairly competitive for everybody, fun for everybody. So overall, I think he accomplishes that goal.

THE_BEER_LEAGUER:

Yeah, I would agree. Like I said, of the three teams we played, I would say that one was pretty clearly better than we were. Not hugely, but pretty clearly. One was pretty clearly worse than us. And then, yeah, one was about the same, which evens out, which is good for us, sucks for the team that was worse. They had to play three teams that kind of they had no business playing, but I don't know how they filled out. I don't know what they said. I don't know what they said about themselves. So it's hard to say.

MASON:

Yeah. Right. And it's interesting because we've been on that worst team for the last two years. I haven't changed my answers. I'm sure you haven't. So it's just luck of the draw sometimes. I feel like.

THE_BEER_LEAGUER:

I think the only thing that's changing my answers is how long I've played in our league. I think that's literally the only thing that changes. Nothing. I haven't gotten any better in two years.

MASON:

You just had a career year. I don't want to hear you talking about it.

THE_BEER_LEAGUER:

A career year of still not being that good. But I was really good at not being that good this year. Just leave it at that. So yeah. So just kind of chime in as I'll walk through stuff and chime in on it. Yeah, yeah. What you do for these tournaments is everybody shows up. This is like a Friday, Saturday tournament that Sunday mornings are the finals of championship games for every division. So it's show up Friday, show up yourself or with people, whatever, and you go kind of sign in, you get your little lanyard, so you're checked in. And I get the idea of having the lanyard, but no one ever checks that. And I found this at every tournament that I think we've ever done. They always have a sign-in process where you have to show ID and everything. And then it's out the door after that.

MASON:

Right.

THE_BEER_LEAGUER:

I'm sure if there's an issue with somebody where you're watching a game and it's clearly somebody's way too good, they might check it. But I don't know. I've never seen anybody actually use those things to verify who you are afterwards. Yeah.

MASON:

I mean, we've got wrist bracelets at other tournaments. You just hand that off to somebody else if you really wanted to. Yeah. It's really an honor system, I suppose.

THE_BEER_LEAGUER:

Yeah. So it's always funny to me. It's like they do the nice check-in and get that and you have your name and all the stuff out. It's like, yeah, but nobody's looking at it afterwards. Nobody's watching it. And I get the really camp police, you have to have extra people kind of watching that. We're going to have people like watching at your locker room door to see who comes in and check IDs. That's kind of what you'd have to do.

MASON:

I'm an instructor.

THE_BEER_LEAGUER:

That's kind of what you'd have to do. Unless you're having somebody checking before game starts.

MASON:

Right.

THE_BEER_LEAGUER:

Which that would be awful. That'd be like the worst job to have to do. Yeah. What do you do?

MASON:

You run your ID back to the locker room or something? It would just be, yeah.

THE_BEER_LEAGUER:

Everybody show up with your lanyard and your ID on the bench. The rest are going to spend 10 minutes going through and verifying everybody first, and then we can start the game. That's kind of what you'd have to do.

MASON:

Yeah.

THE_BEER_LEAGUER:

I don't know another way around there. That would be awful. That'd just be awful. Like I said, they do about as good as I think you can do for any of that stuff. From other ones we've done, it's as organized as any of them have been. It's definitely the most organized and well put together and thought out once, because they actually do have divisions, and they do actually try and put people properly against other teams.

MASON:

I'm always a fan of a lanyard too. I like to walk around, feel like a VIP. I have a cool QR code on the back for free beer or something.

THE_BEER_LEAGUER:

Yeah. They have that for the check-in stuff, and then they always have all the merch that they're selling.

MASON:

Yeah, they do have pretty good merch.

THE_BEER_LEAGUER:

They have a lot, and they rotate through merch a lot. They have different stuff every year. I give a lot of credit for that, and that the merch is not very expensive. It's not cheap, but it's not expensive.

MASON:

Yeah. I mean, I got some high-quality stuff.

THE_BEER_LEAGUER:

Yeah.

MASON:

So I mean, it was on par for like, I got a T-shirt for 30 bucks, and it seems it's very soft, very high-quality. No complaints.

THE_BEER_LEAGUER:

I have lots of hoodies. I have lots of hoodies from them, and I like them all. So, yeah, they have that, so that's nice. And then that's kind of it for check-in. That's pretty much said and done. You don't really ever deal with that again afterwards, after that first day on Friday. And then it's just getting your team out there and playing. And one thing that I will say that confused me, and then talking to Nick, again, Nick, who runs this whole thing, it confused me more, I think, but made more sense was the fact that they have their website, which is not updated because apparently they're moving it, which I don't think is a valid excuse, but that's fine. They have their website. That's not really updated for, wasn't updated for this tournament. It was two years old stuff. But then they have an app that you're supposed to get. Maybe you're not supposed to need the app anymore, but the app doesn't have the schedule and stuff in there. So instead, he sent via email the schedule and roster verification and stuff like that. That was on the website, but you couldn't get to it from the main website. You had to just use the link that they sent.

MASON:

Yeah.

THE_BEER_LEAGUER:

And so if you didn't have that handy, like you couldn't get your schedule or anything.

MASON:

Yeah, that was going to be my biggest gripe was that. You couldn't find anything. I could find the schedule for me at 2022. Almost went straight to the link. That's like a low-key gripe.

THE_BEER_LEAGUER:

Yeah. That was confusing to me and kind of bothered me, but then I know because I said something to Nick about it, and he was like, oh yeah, we have an update the websites. Like I said, so they're moving websites, which I'm like, okay, I get it. But that almost makes it worse. I just, I get it, but I still don't like it. And I mean, they had a schedule up, so when you got there, they had a schedule up on a big, I don't know what you call it, like a big banner. They had the-

MASON:

Yeah, it's like one of those big dry erase tournament boards. I feel like they're at every tournament, pretty standard.

THE_BEER_LEAGUER:

Yeah, and they had like all the game results and the schedule and everything like that. So if you're there, it was fine. But if you're paranoid, like I am, thinking that you have the time wrong, and you're sitting at your Verbo at night, and you have to go through all your emails to find the one that had the link to the thing because you can't go through the website and you're freaking out. If you can't remember what time your morning game is, not great. So-

MASON:

Yeah, we're all hanging out of the Verbo. And at least five times, people are asking what time our game was, and it took me forever to find it. But I forget every time too, so it didn't help.

THE_BEER_LEAGUER:

Yeah. So that was, I think that for me, that was the biggest, I don't know if I'm going to say gripe or downside, but I think that was whatever the worst part was that.

MASON:

Yeah, I would agree wholeheartedly for that.

THE_BEER_LEAGUER:

Which I understand makes it way, it's made way worse for like me because I'm super paranoid about this and I check everything a million and a half times. And we do have every, we have all the guys all separately ask what time stuff is.

MASON:

Yeah.

THE_BEER_LEAGUER:

Like at least three times a night. And I'm just used to that. And it's like, I'm used to being able to like pull it up and you know, we use Bench App for everything. I'm used to just pulling up Bench App and everything being there, just saying, just check Bench App. I probably should have put all these things in there, but I didn't go through and make a whole Bench App season for this. Yeah.

MASON:

That'd be cool. But it's been a lot of work.

THE_BEER_LEAGUER:

I was trying to make these not a ton of work for me. I tried to. Yeah. Because I'm like, hey, I'm not running this thing. I don't want to have to do a whole bunch of work. I'd kind of like to show up and play.

MASON:

Yeah, to hang out, to relax a little bit.

THE_BEER_LEAGUER:

Which does not happen. And I just can't.

MASON:

Yeah. I will say another cool thing about Friday. Nick comes in and breaks down the roles for everything and introduces himself in the locker room. That's always nice. That's a little personal touch.

THE_BEER_LEAGUER:

And he gives a hug if you ask him.

MASON:

Oh, that's true. You didn't get a hug.

THE_BEER_LEAGUER:

If you ask, you get a hug. So if you guys do one of these tournaments, I'm sure you do it at a draft tournament too. Just start asking him for hugs. Tell him I said he gives free hugs.

MASON:

This is pure speculation. Maybe it increases your draft ranking.

THE_BEER_LEAGUER:

I'm sure it does. I bet it helps. I'm sure that it helps. And I'm just going to say we've played in this three years. For two years, I didn't get a hug, and our team was terrible. This year, I got a hug. I would play it on Sunday. So just saying, just saying.

MASON:

So you need a Sunday hug, too? Maybe we'll win next year.

THE_BEER_LEAGUER:

I think that's what I needed was a Sunday hug. Yeah. So like, okay, so you had mentioned we stated a Verbo, which for those who don't know, Verbo is basically Airbnb. But the-

MASON:

I don't know the difference.

THE_BEER_LEAGUER:

The only real difference that I know between the two is that Verbo very- their kind of whole advertising thing is that you get a whole place to yourself. That's their whole thing, because more and more Airbnbs are like, you get to stay in somebody's in-law suite, while they still live in the house, or vice versa, or things like that, where you don't necessarily get a whole place to yourself. A lot more people like, or, hey, it's just a room to rent. You know, and the people still live in the house.

MASON:

Yeah, that would be your question, I feel.

THE_BEER_LEAGUER:

I'm not, yeah, I'm not down for that. I think that's way cheaper way to do it though, too.

MASON:

Yeah.

THE_BEER_LEAGUER:

You know, and that's, when I say, I think that's a lot more of those, that's got to be more and more prevalent on Airbnb, and Virbo's kind of whole marketing thing is, hey, no, you get the whole place. And luckily, we found a place that could house our entire team.

MASON:

Yeah.

THE_BEER_LEAGUER:

Because we had, well, 12 people, one person to stay at their house that was like a couple of blocks away. But it was not easy to find an 11 person house. That was, there was not a lot of them out there.

MASON:

Yeah.

THE_BEER_LEAGUER:

But I think it worked out well. It was actually, it was a duplex. So half stayed in one half, the other half stayed in the other half. And like any good duplex, it was completely mirrored from side to side. Yep. And yeah, I don't know. I mean, from my perspective of being the person that like booked the Verbo, super easy to book. I mean, it's the same as booking an Airbnb, which is kind of the same as booking on the towel. Like there's not much to it. You give them money and they say, yeah, we'll let you in on that day. Pretty easy exchange there. But it was super smooth. I thought it worked out really well. It was nice having everybody. I like having everybody in the same place. I think that's a super fun thing to do.

MASON:

Yeah.

THE_BEER_LEAGUER:

And it was kind of a neat thing of having the duplex was, every so often, one or two people could just wander to the other side. And they'd be watching some other show from what everyone's watching. You're like, hey, this side of the house is all watching NHL playoffs. One person goes to the other side and they're watching, I don't know, funny YouTube videos. And then one other person wanders over, and then another person wanders over, and then it's like, hey, where'd they go? And then everybody go, oh, let's go see what they're doing.

MASON:

Right. I was worried that it would be things would be much more fractured because it was a duplex, right? Like I thought there would be no room to hang out. And I will say, if you ever look at a duplex, having like that front porch area was really nice because it was like a nice overflow area. Like half of us were kind of like in a living room that looked out onto this porch. And so you could still interact with people on the porch, but you kind of have your own thing, watch TV, eat, whatever. And it just kind of made it feel a little more conjoined, a little more intimate, got to a little hang out outside, hang out inside. And then like you said, like if you need to take a break, head over to the other half of the house. But yeah, I think that porch tied things together real nicely.

THE_BEER_LEAGUER:

It did. I will say to that during this weekend, it was pretty crappy weather. Yeah, it was very rainy. So drying stuff on the porch was not ideal. A number of people did. And I don't know how dry their stuff got. I don't think very dry. But we mentioned this in the travel episode about doing these things is made sure that there was a washer and dryer available, which is clutch, I think is a big deal. And luckily this one, only one side had access to the basement, which was fine. And it was a very unfinished basement. But it had a lot of space in it and had a dehumidifier, which I think made a difference for the people that chose to lay their gear out there versus outside in the, I mean, it wasn't in the rain because it was on the porch and it was covered, but pretty much in the rain.

MASON:

Yeah, I mean, it's 100% humidity. You're not gonna really dry anything out in that, but yeah, even though it wasn't unfinished, it was not wet by any means in their basement, in that basement. So it didn't make it really nice. It was a huge basement. They had two washer dryers, which we all used one, but it was pretty nice.

THE_BEER_LEAGUER:

And I'll throw out here because I forget to do this every time we do one of these things. If you have stuff that you can bring to hang your gear on, I think that helps. Every year I say I'm going to bring my gear hanger. Every year I forget it. I also think like, oh, should I bring, because I use a, it's basically a boot dryer for my gloves and my skates. Oh, should I bring that because it's small? No, I don't need it. Yeah, I should have brought it. Like space was not a premium with driving, like because we took a number of vehicles, so people had space for stuff. I should have definitely brought that, or at least brought like a fan or something. Like if we had a fan down there, I think that would have been huge.

MASON:

Yeah, somebody had like five fans in their rooms, one in their room, so we should have just stole it. But yeah.

THE_BEER_LEAGUER:

But overall, I think that was really good, and I think again, everybody staying in one place is nice. I really like that.

MASON:

Yeah, pro tip right there, stay with your whole team, hang out all night. It's pretty cool.

THE_BEER_LEAGUER:

Yeah, and as you get to the people that don't talk to you guys a whole bunch during the year, you get to talk to them and find out stuff about them.

MASON:

Yeah.

THE_BEER_LEAGUER:

That's a fun thing. It's a fun part of it. It carries over into your regular games, your regular season, regular league.

MASON:

Yeah.

THE_BEER_LEAGUER:

Whatever you call it. You're not tournament stuff.

MASON:

Real life.

THE_BEER_LEAGUER:

It does. It carries over to real life.

MASON:

These are real relationships.

THE_BEER_LEAGUER:

But yes, I think that's a big thing. That was a big thing with that. So again, we've talked about that before, and I reiterate that. Any other points on the Verbo? Pluses, negatives, positives, things to watch out for, gotchas?

MASON:

I don't think so. I mean, the place is great. It was clean. Had enough bathrooms. I thought we had two bathrooms per side. There was never, I never had to wait to use the bathroom. I feel like that would be my biggest concern in sharing a house with ten other dudes. But I mean, it worked well. And I think, I'm pretty sure it had two water heaters, because I was always worried about having enough hot water. But there's plenty of hot water, so I wasn't worried.

THE_BEER_LEAGUER:

Good. Yeah. That's one of those math things I always do for how many bathrooms there are. What do we stay? Is I, I like, I try to do the half the number of bathrooms, approximately, of people. I try and do something like that. It usually doesn't work out. But that's usually a pretty, because a lot of places too have, I don't know, a lot of these places, when you book them, they have, they'll say like, hey, we have three bathrooms. But it will be, oh, one of the bathrooms is attached to a bedroom, which that's fine, but it depends what the bedroom is, because it might be like kind of inaccessible to everybody just about. And then they'll have like one full bathroom, and then they'll have like one half bath.

MASON:

Right.

THE_BEER_LEAGUER:

And again, where is it? You know, kind of thing. So it pays to look at the pictures and try and figure out where this stuff is. So you get, yeah, so you don't have like traffic jams. So everyone's not using the same bathroom, and having to use the same bathroom all the time, because that's, that sucks with a bunch of dudes. Dudes are gross. And for a way to tournament or something, you know we're just eating crap. So that makes it even grosser. So you don't want that. But yeah, and I thought the place was really nice. It's in Columbus, which, if anyone doesn't know Columbus, college town. So, you know, there's just stuff going on all the time, all hours. So that was a lot of the, hanging out on the porch was a lot of just watching that. And seeing that stuff also means it was very easy to find food, lots of food options for people, easy delivery options and stuff. So that's another important thing to look out for. Because other tournaments that we have played in, you don't have that, the food options close to where you're staying, and they're not open late. So you have to kind of pre-plan a lot more. So something to think about. Okay, so back to the actual hockey of things. We talked about kind of the starting, getting everything going, getting in there. The rinks, they do these at... Columbus kind of has just one network of rinks. They're called Chiller. And there's four of them in the Columbus area, and they had them at two different ones. One was kind of the main rink, and then one kind of auxiliary kind of flow over for games. The last couple of years, they've been at another Chiller rink and had, I think, the same flow over games that they had for this one. And the Chiller rinks are actually really nice. They're all pretty new. They're all very similar in setup. And yeah, they're just nice. They're a pretty nice facility. Nice size locker rooms. You know, they're not huge by any means, but you're not crammed. There was 12 of us, and we were not crammed in there at all. People had had a decent amount of room. Nothing is gross.

MASON:

Yeah.

THE_BEER_LEAGUER:

That's a big thing, like there's, you know, there's bathrooms and showers in every locker room separately, and they're not disgusting, which was nice. The only downside that we had was Saturday. Apparently, we ran out of hot water because people were trying to shower, and there was no hot water at all in the showers. So I'm guessing we just maxed them out for our later game on Saturday.

MASON:

Yeah, and we weren't even in LA. We were like five.

THE_BEER_LEAGUER:

Yeah. Well, I think we were close to the end of the day for the Saturday. I don't think there were too many going into the evening.

MASON:

Well, no, they played until eight or nine, I think.

THE_BEER_LEAGUER:

Yeah, that's not too many, though. I mean, there's only two sheets.

MASON:

No, but still.

THE_BEER_LEAGUER:

Yeah. Yeah, we weren't the end.

MASON:

Three more hours of no heat, hot water.

THE_BEER_LEAGUER:

Yeah. So that was whatever. I'm a cold shower guy. I didn't care. But everybody else was not really liking that. And then because that was on Saturday, as you mentioned, Saturday is the free food and beer party, which I don't want to make it sound like it's nothing. But literally all it is, is they have a grill. They go to, I think, like Costco or something, buy a bulk thing of hamburgers and a bulk thing of hot dogs. Then fill up a baby pool with ice and just dump a bunch of different kinds of beer in it. And it, it sounds like it's a nothing thing, because it kind of is, but it's really cool.

MASON:

Yeah. I don't know if it was this year. I feel like it was less visited.

THE_BEER_LEAGUER:

I don't know. There was a lot more food this year, like ready to go.

MASON:

That there was in a couple of years past. I don't know if it's cause it was rainy. So less people are hanging out in the Burton lot or what, but yeah, I just walked up, grabbed a couple of burgers. It's pretty nice.

THE_BEER_LEAGUER:

Yeah. I think that's what it was. I think it was because the weather people were not as mingly as much in going back for thirds and fourths and fifths as they had in years past.

MASON:

Yeah.

THE_BEER_LEAGUER:

And other thing I will say, my only complaint with it, it's free hot dogs and burgers. Like it is what it is, you know. My only complaint was all they had was beer and bottled water, until apparently somewhere at the very end, there was cans of Coke floating in there.

MASON:

Yeah. Last couple of years, they had a couple various non-alcoholic options as far as soda went. Yeah. But this year was, yeah, I went over there the first time to grab a burger and there was nothing. Then they put out some Cokes, which was nice.

THE_BEER_LEAGUER:

Yeah. And they do. They get a variety of beers. So it's not just like one or two. They, there's a couple of different ones. And always, they're always really good about posting a funny picture, like Saturday morning or Friday night or whatever, of them picking up just a ridiculous amount, like ridiculous number of cases of beers. Again, I think it's like, I think they go to like Costco or something.

MASON:

Yeah.

THE_BEER_LEAGUER:

And get those. And they always post that and it's always funny. So, you know, so that's always a fun time hanging out there and chatting with people and talking with other teams. And, you know, your own team or whatever around there. And I felt like this year, though, there was more so than I remember there being, people having full set ups in the parking lot. Like, I remember in the past, people having kind of like little bit of tailgate set ups, you know, like somebody who would have a truck and they'd kind of be like tailgating out the back of the truck or whatever. And of course, there's like random people with RVs. Always. But I felt like this year, there's a lot more people that had like those little party tents and like stuff set like, like legit, like kind of setups in the parking lot.

MASON:

See, I felt like it was the opposite. Like I saw the couple RVs, but I didn't see anybody. I feel like I didn't see anybody with any tent this year. Whereas normally, and I don't know if it was partly because of this other rink we were at, like it felt like there was less parking lot in general at the main rink this year.

THE_BEER_LEAGUER:

Yeah.

MASON:

I feel like last year, there was just like a crap ton of tents, even on Friday, because there's no beer or food on Fridays. It's just Saturdays. I feel like even on Friday, people are like hanging out. And the parking lot last year, whereas this year, there was like nobody. We also had like the first game, which is a little different.

THE_BEER_LEAGUER:

But yeah, I think that last year and last two years, because the weather has been better, there's been a lot more people just mingling.

MASON:

Right.

THE_BEER_LEAGUER:

Like a lot more people just mingling around in the parking lot. And the parking lot was a lot larger and it was kind of just, it was a bigger lot in one space. Where this year, the lot was kind of split into, there's a little bit in front of the building and then a lot of it on the side and kind of around. And that's where I saw the tents, because that's where I wanted to parking, was kind of around almost the back of the building. And I felt that that's where there were more people. And there was way less mingling this year. And I attribute that to the weather, like way less people just kind of hanging around. But I thought there was more people at like, they had like tents and stuff like that set up. But probably less people overall because there was less just sitting around. Because I remember the last years, there was just like people everywhere, like sea of people in the parking lot.

MASON:

Right. Yeah, exactly.

THE_BEER_LEAGUER:

Because they do say like, you know, bring like camping chairs and stuff to hang out. And I made sure to bring a couple because usually nobody does. And so I had a couple ready to go. And I'm like, nobody wanted to be sitting really in the rain. So we're really doing that. We're just kind of standing around.

MASON:

Yeah, I brought enough for everybody in my car and they never left my car.

THE_BEER_LEAGUER:

Yeah, that's how mine were. So that's, but that's, I mean, that's, you know, it's just a weather dependent thing, I think, which that's too bad because that is, that is a super fun thing. That's one of the really things they do at these tournaments is that Saturday, free food and beer and hang out. And when it's nice out, it's awesome because in the past, we've had that where we just, you know, are hanging out and it's just fun, fun hanging out, free food, good times. I do wish they had more options because we had some, we have people that have certain dietary restrictions. I don't know how you'd handle that and you can't handle it all for everybody, but you know.

MASON:

Yeah, yeah, I feel bad, but I feel like keeping it simple is probably the easiest for everybody.

THE_BEER_LEAGUER:

Yeah, it's one of the slippery slope things of, you do something for one group of people and then the next group needs something and the next group, then the next group. Right. You're like, hey, we got veggie dogs. But we're doing them on the same grill as the crap. Okay.

MASON:

Right.

THE_BEER_LEAGUER:

Start getting the stuff like that. We have three prepackaged salads for people. You can have those. I don't know what you would do. That maybe a chicken option.

MASON:

You've had bad experiences with chicken and things we've been to, so I would disagree.

THE_BEER_LEAGUER:

I'm not saying I'd have it, but I mean, it would be something you could do. That's not too bad.

MASON:

If you're feeling daring, you can have the chicken.

THE_BEER_LEAGUER:

The same thing could happen with a hot dog.

MASON:

Could it? I don't know. Sure. All that meat is like barely meat. It's mostly salt and chemicals, right?

THE_BEER_LEAGUER:

Yeah, I suppose.

MASON:

But we did learn what I learned what a glizzy was.

THE_BEER_LEAGUER:

I don't know how you've made it to now and not know what that is.

MASON:

Yeah, I've heard it before, and I was talking about it with my wife over the weekend. And I think I've heard it more referred to as like it's a Glock too. It's a slang term for a large hot dog or a Glock. I've probably heard it more in the Glock sense than a large hot dog sense, but...

THE_BEER_LEAGUER:

That's even more ridiculous. That makes it even more ridiculous then. But that's how you know that.

MASON:

I listen to a lot of rap songs. Come on, Roz.

THE_BEER_LEAGUER:

That's true. That's true. I forgot. I forgot you are in the really hardcore gangster rap.

MASON:

Oh, yeah, the hardest core.

THE_BEER_LEAGUER:

Yeah. Let me think of other things, like kind of a... I think that covers all the non-hockey parts of that weekend. I think that kind of covers everything. Do you agree?

MASON:

Yeah, I think so. I was just trying to think. The number one rule is don't be a dick. And for the most part, no one's a dick. I feel like that's one of the one differentiators of like the BLPA tournaments is they're... They don't want you to sand bat. It's supposed to be less competitive. They don't want to see their backers. They don't want dicks in the tournament. It happens, but overall, I feel like most of everyone's pretty cool.

THE_BEER_LEAGUER:

Yeah. I think it's, you do get a lot of returning teams. A little bit I talked to Nick is he seemed to know a lot of the teams or at least a large number of the people that are playing on the teams and stuff like that. So I think that helps. Yeah.

MASON:

I mean, he goes, like I said, he goes and introduces himself. He kind of gets a feel for for everybody he knew. I mean, he knows you, obviously, and we've had been on the same team for the last couple of years. He even held a spot for that team. Unfortunately, their captain, you know, didn't sign, have them sign up because he's not with the team anymore. And it was the whole thing. But it's just kind of cool to see that. Like, I don't know that any other tournament would be like, hey, like, you've had a team for years. Are you guys coming out?

THE_BEER_LEAGUER:

Yeah, that's it. That is. That is very true. And it was like, too, just from a captain sign up standpoint, it was a very nice process for signing up because he lets you, like, sign up as a captain and then either, you know, like, pay as a person and everybody pays individually. And like, does, like, you all sign up individually and then pay or sign up as a captain, pay for the whole thing and then kind of like the normal, everybody pays the captain, you split it up and you put the, get the roster in for whatever it's going to be, sort of thing.

MASON:

Right.

THE_BEER_LEAGUER:

They kind of let you pick, which is nice. You know, that's nice to have that.

MASON:

Did you have to, like, say how many people are going to have or was it a flat team fee?

THE_BEER_LEAGUER:

No, it was a flat, it was a flat team fee.

MASON:

Okay.

THE_BEER_LEAGUER:

Yeah.

MASON:

Nice.

THE_BEER_LEAGUER:

Yeah. So it was however many guys we got for, you know, just everybody splits up.

MASON:

Right.

THE_BEER_LEAGUER:

You know, and then there's just the regular stuff of getting people to pay, which, you know, that's nothing to do with this and just, it was fun.

MASON:

Yeah.

THE_BEER_LEAGUER:

Every captain loves that.

MASON:

Oh, yeah.

THE_BEER_LEAGUER:

Yeah. It's always the best part. And if you're like me, then you're a glutton for punishment. You also get the Verbo and make everybody, you know, just do everything and have that.

MASON:

Yeah.

THE_BEER_LEAGUER:

Yeah. Okay. So, yeah, so that kind of covers all the off-ice stuff. And then for the game stuff, two things that to me kind of stand out, we already talked about competitive level and all that and everything, is one, the people that are doing the scorekeeping, and the pretty good quality of that, especially the guy that did at the end, he was playing music, which I always love when people play music when they're scorekeeping. I never do it, but I always appreciate when people do that. I just think it's super fun, so I like that. And then also the refs. And I know that that can be like a real touchy subject and real hit and miss, going from city to city with the refs. But I felt like the refs, except for one thing, and you might know the one thing that I'm going to say, except for one thing, I felt that the refs the whole weekend were really good. I thought they did a nice job of what I always say of, they knew where to be on the give a crap meter. Like, I think for Beer League, that's like the most important thing of like, what level of crap do you give about this? Like, you get like, this is Beer League, this isn't pros, we get that. Hopefully, the refs get that. But also, we all are, you know, it's competitive hockey. So, you know, don't ignore everything. Right. And I felt for the most part, the refs of the whole weekend were really good about it, really nice about it, real friendly to talk to. I am one that chats up the refs every game. And the one ref remembered me from last, at least last year, the last two years. Which, I was surprised, but I shouldn't be surprised at, since I go and chat up the refs every game. And I always talk to the refs after the games, and I always try and be friendly with them. But they were all, like I said, they were all really friendly. Everyone was super nice. They were real friendly about stuff. They were refs that you could talk to. Like not if one were super standoffish or pissed off, which, especially when you get to like, the latter half of Saturday is shocking to me, because most of these guys have done like all the games.

MASON:

Right.

THE_BEER_LEAGUER:

And it's like, man, I don't know. I don't know how you get through like doing like your 12th Beer League game in a row, and you're not just like, you know, screw you, screw you. Everybody gets penalties. I don't want to hear anything. You know, don't look at me. You know, that's so kudos to them for that.

MASON:

Yeah, I have a problem with the refs. There's a few minor things. One, I'll wait for you to talk about. And then there's one of our games, where a ref just felt like he was always in the way.

THE_BEER_LEAGUER:

That was the thing I was going to say.

MASON:

That happens.

THE_BEER_LEAGUER:

I felt like it wasn't just one game. I felt like that was a repeating thing over the weekend of having refs that were just kind of in the way. And I don't know if we're just used to refs that or more cognizant of that or more mobile or something or... I don't know, but I just felt like the refs... And not terribly. They weren't in the middle of plays. But there's a lot of stuff of like, hey, I'm trying to rib the puck around the boards or trying to off the boards and get it out or stuff like that. I felt like there was always just kind of a ref plastered up against the boards for that kind of stuff. Which again, not a huge deal, but just a little annoying. One, because you can't do the thing you want to do. And then two, you kind of inadvertently hit the ref. And I think every time somebody does that, you're like, oh crap, oh, are you okay? Are you going to be pissed?

MASON:

Right. They're not wearing, I mean, they don't wear pads and they're not wearing like, face protection, really.

THE_BEER_LEAGUER:

Yeah, usually not. Well, most refs have some kind of pads. Most of them have, like, baby shin guards, and some of them have little pseudo hockey girdles and stuff.

MASON:

Yeah.

THE_BEER_LEAGUER:

You know, they got little pads. Yeah.

MASON:

So then I guess if that was the thing you're going to say, I'm only one of our games, I feel like they should have called a few more things early, and things kind of got out of hand afterwards. But yeah, I mean, overall, they're pretty good.

THE_BEER_LEAGUER:

Yeah. I would agree with that. But I think that's more of a, I don't think they blatantly missed anything, and they got a terrible job for that. But it definitely could have been better, a lot better.

MASON:

Yeah. Yeah. I mean, our guy got hurt, so it kind of ticked us all off. But he had been tripped multiple. I think that's pretty blatant. They've been tripped multiple times before. And who knows if that changes the outcome or anything, but that was my only gripe. And then like, I mean, that it could be any ref in any league, really, honestly.

THE_BEER_LEAGUER:

Yeah. That's why I say, like, it's do I think they should have called stuff? Yes, definitely. They should have called more stuff before. And hopefully wouldn't have gotten to that place. He wouldn't have gotten hurt. But I'm also more used to refs not calling a lot of that kind of stuff. I'm used to refs that don't call anything a lot. So calling any kind of penalty and calling icings was like a nice like, oh, wow, you're watching the game. That's cool.

MASON:

The bar is pretty low for us.

THE_BEER_LEAGUER:

That's what I was saying is it could have some of the refing been done better? Yes, definitely. But it was not terrible by any means. Yeah.

MASON:

And it was interesting. A couple minor rule changes is blue line icing, which I heard one ref explaining to another ref in the middle of our games, which was funny. And it was 12-minute periods, right?

THE_BEER_LEAGUER:

Yeah.

MASON:

12-minute stop time. So just a little different.

THE_BEER_LEAGUER:

Yeah, which is good. And that stuff was explained in an email beforehand.

MASON:

Yeah. And he explains it. That's one of his locker room speech things as he goes over the specialized rules.

THE_BEER_LEAGUER:

Yeah, which was good. And yeah, I'm not surprised the refs do that. I mean, we have refs that don't know the rules for leagues. They've been roughing in for 20 years. Yeah.

MASON:

I found it amusing.

THE_BEER_LEAGUER:

I mean, I explain rules of the refs a lot. You know, the one thing I didn't care for with refs knowing rules is our championship game. We made it a championship game. It was tied at the end. And I didn't know what was going to happen. I'm saying this as the captain. I had no idea what was happening. I feel like the refs didn't really know what was happening. The scorekeeper didn't really know what was happening. I feel like Nick was the only one who knew what was happening there. Which, I get it, you probably don't expect it to be tied. But it's also a thing of, hey, man, your whole thing is you want there to be every game be a tie. Maybe tell us what goes on at the tie. Or you see the game's getting very, like, staying very close to the whole game. Maybe, like, say something. Because he did come watch most of those games, you know, at least most of our game on Sunday. I assume he watched most of all the games. Again, not a huge deal, but, like, I don't know, I would have preferred to not have been put on the spot for, hey, figure out what you're doing right away. I would have liked to have had a moment or two to think about it. Again, because I am super over-thinker, paranoid person, you know, I would have liked to have had the eat, like, the night before, be able to bring up an Excel spreadsheet to make some charts and graphs to figure out what we're going to do. And I run some stuff through, you know, some AI models to come up with the best or best possible shootout line up. I'm only partially kidding. And I think you know that.

MASON:

Yeah, I know. I'm assuming you have this. We played this goalie in our regular league, so I'm assuming you have, like, have some of this data charted out for potential playoff stuff.

THE_BEER_LEAGUER:

I've got it all ready to go. It would have been nice to have known that beforehand. So I felt like that was a little bit of a miss. Yeah. I'm not that upset again because I know it was a weird situation to have to actually get to a tie. But again, you know, maybe let people know.

MASON:

Yeah.

THE_BEER_LEAGUER:

Like I said, you could have said, like, hey, at this stoppage with five minutes to go, it's still tied. Hey, guys, just FYI, everybody.

MASON:

Right.

THE_BEER_LEAGUER:

You know, go tell the benches or something like that. That would have been. Yeah.

MASON:

Or include it in your e-mail in the case of a playoff tie.

THE_BEER_LEAGUER:

Yeah. Would have been nice to know.

MASON:

I will say with the periods and everything, like, I don't think we ever waited very long for a game. I think we started the day off early, which was nice. And then even when we had like a mid-day game, things were running out of time. So that was kudos for that.

THE_BEER_LEAGUER:

Keeping the game surprising.

MASON:

Pretty tight.

THE_BEER_LEAGUER:

Yeah.

MASON:

I mean, we play in other tournaments. It's like you're waiting half hour for your game, your half hour past your start time.

THE_BEER_LEAGUER:

That's I think more we're used to. Like, OK, you have the first game. Great. You're going to start probably on time. You know, your next game is at 430. It might be at 5. Maybe. We'll see how the games go. Might be closer to, you know, 536 o'clock.

MASON:

Right.

THE_BEER_LEAGUER:

You know. So, yeah, that is a good point. Stuff did go quickly. I don't think anything was off by very much. Like you said, our second game on Saturday was like two-thirds through the day, and it was fine.

MASON:

Right. Maybe like a couple of minutes, but essentially right on time.

THE_BEER_LEAGUER:

Yeah. I mean, it's ranked time. Couple of minutes is nothing.

MASON:

Yeah, exactly.

THE_BEER_LEAGUER:

I mean, in our regular home league here, we've had starts pushed back half an hour.

MASON:

Right.

THE_BEER_LEAGUER:

Because stupid kids don't get off the ice.

MASON:

It's not kids.

THE_BEER_LEAGUER:

It's always kids. Kids are always the problem. They don't get off the ice. They don't understand how locker room numbers work. That's true. Every damn room. Yeah. Yeah. But no. So do you have any other thoughts for the on-ice product, like the actual running of the games, how the games went?

MASON:

I don't have anything, no. I mean, like you said, the reps were pretty good. Overall skill level matchup was as best as could be expected. Yeah. I mean, it was just a ton of fun, honestly. I had a lot of fun playing the whole weekend.

THE_BEER_LEAGUER:

Yeah. And I will say it's better. I have a much better idea of how the matchup, the matchmaking works for teams. Now that we brought our own team and kind of know where everybody was at versus some of us playing with another team. And I have no idea what those guys, how they said they were or weren't or what. And we did not do well. But I don't know how that is. I don't know if they were saying that they were better than they were or what.

MASON:

Right.

THE_BEER_LEAGUER:

So that was good to see that it did actually work out. Okay, so then kind of the last couple of things that we had is, I will say in them kind of broad strokes of things. One thing I did find kind of funny is we did go down there. Yeah, we go down to Columbus, which is like a two-hour drive for us. And we did wind up playing a team of people that we mostly play against up here.

MASON:

Right.

THE_BEER_LEAGUER:

It wasn't a team that we play against normally, but it was pretty much all players that we play against normally. And that's what we played in the championship game, of course. Which I thought was kind of funny, but it seems pretty par for the course. Also, there was interesting, I don't know if I want to say weird, something, interactions with teams before the tournament started.

MASON:

Yes.

THE_BEER_LEAGUER:

And that was, that was something, that was definitely something. And that kind of makes me think is, should there be a way for teams to get a hold of each other, like kind of within the tournament ecosystem?

MASON:

Yeah.

THE_BEER_LEAGUER:

That might be kind of nice. I don't know how that would be.

MASON:

I mean, yeah, I don't know. Like you said, they use like a weird system. I felt like they have three different websites that I would always check.

THE_BEER_LEAGUER:

Yeah.

MASON:

They have like their main website, the direct link, and they use League apps for registration. I just assume everything would be in League apps and you could message each other through there, but it's not. I think that's maybe like the ideal solution. But yeah, I don't know.

THE_BEER_LEAGUER:

I do think that that would be a handy kind of thing to have something like that. So people don't have to be outside of that to try and find somebody on the team to get a hold of somebody and do that. It would be nice if you could kind of do it within all of that.

MASON:

Yeah. Or at least have like a captain's directory or something, you know, like if you need to get a hold of some other captain.

THE_BEER_LEAGUER:

Yeah. Or at least say, hey, here's the teams you're playing if you want to, if you need to get a hold on for whatever reason, you know.

MASON:

Yeah. Yeah.

THE_BEER_LEAGUER:

You know, like I wouldn't care if they gave out, I don't know if I don't want to necessarily give my phone number. I don't care if they give out my email to the other captain who played like, hey, you want to get a hold of me for whatever, you know, kind of thing that that'd be fine.

MASON:

Yeah. That's the mistakes.

THE_BEER_LEAGUER:

Yeah. You know, everybody's got my email. It's easy to get to. Hey, if you out there want my email, you can send me emails at thebeerleaguer.com. Right there, thebeerleaguer.com. You can send emails and send voicemails too. Yes, Mason, there's a way to send voicemails on the website.

MASON:

Yeah. What is it though? TheBeerLeaguer at thebeerleaguer.com or?

THE_BEER_LEAGUER:

No, just go to thebeerleaguer.com and you can get everything.

MASON:

Oh, I see. You go to the website.

THE_BEER_LEAGUER:

Okay. Yeah. Just go to the website. It's got all the stuff. It's got a contact. There's a contact page. You can contact me on there. You can send a voicemail on there.

MASON:

You can text the show.

THE_BEER_LEAGUER:

You can text the show. It's in the show notes. Just click the link, send a text. It's totally anonymous unless you put your name on it. If you text it, all I see is the area code and the first three digits are your phone number. So I can't text you back. But I can see where your phone number is from, which in this day and age means absolutely nothing for where people are texting from.

MASON:

Right.

THE_BEER_LEAGUER:

But you can't do that. People have done that and it's cool. It's a cool way to get a hold and give your thoughts on things. If you have thoughts on this show, on this episode, were you at the Columbus bash and you would like to talk about things? Or you get a different city's bash and you're one to compare and contrast. Love to hear about it. Yeah.

MASON:

Love to hear about it. Ironically, our Verbo was next to some dude that was also playing in this tournament. So if you have that dude, text the show.

THE_BEER_LEAGUER:

Hey, guy. Nice to talk to you again. That was really funny. He just walked up and he's got his hockey bag and I think he just noticed all the hockey stuff on the porch. I asked, are you guys here for a tournament? And they're like, yeah, we are. And yeah, that's just where he lived. You just happen to live right there.

MASON:

Yeah. Nice wholesome experience.

THE_BEER_LEAGUER:

Well, the whole thing was a wholesome experience. Yeah.

MASON:

It's a lot of fun. I will say I had fun every year I've done it. This year is more fun because we did better, but also we brought our whole team. So it's like everybody that you already know and are somewhat comfortable with. And so that made it a lot more fun too.

THE_BEER_LEAGUER:

And we all hung out, whereas the previous two years, the group of us that went with the other team kind of hung out. Like we hung out, and then the other group, I don't know how much they hung out, if they did or not, but we didn't really hang out with them outside of the stuff. Whereas this time, it was everybody hanging out, which was super fun. So any other thoughts? Any other overall thoughts, specific thoughts?

MASON:

Nothing really. I feel like we touched on it all. Again, it was a super fun tournament. Hopefully, I get to do it again next year, see what life provides. But yeah, I love it. I would definitely recommend it.

THE_BEER_LEAGUER:

I would as well. I'd recommend any of these bash tournaments. I assume that the draft tournaments are very similar, but it's just a different setup. Because you're not playing with a bunch of buddies, you're playing with all new people. You know, it might be great if you don't know anybody, or you hate all the people you play with.

MASON:

Yeah. I'm a serial introvert, so that's not my cup of tea. But yeah, because it's what you go drink beer with guys the night before, hang out at a bar, and that's how they determine if they want to draft you or not.

THE_BEER_LEAGUER:

Well, they do a-

MASON:

If you're a good hang.

THE_BEER_LEAGUER:

No. They kind of put you in tears, and then you captains, I think, start off, they have captains for each team, and then they go up and they chug a beer, or I think you can do a ginger ale if you don't want to do a beer. Which seems way harder to chug a ginger ale.

MASON:

Yeah, a lot more bubbles.

THE_BEER_LEAGUER:

Yeah. And it's whoever- it's like the order of finishing of that gets to pick for the next round. Like the order- that's the order for the next round, and like I said, every round is, I think, supposed to be like similar skill set level. And there's like a goalie round. And I don't know if you have any way of knowing any of these people or anything about them. So you might just be blindly picking on how somebody looks.

MASON:

Well, I think there's a mixer in there somewhere.

THE_BEER_LEAGUER:

And they mix with certain rounds. Yeah, I don't know where the mixer falls in with it. So, and then it's just like the people that get picked. So captains do it. Then they pick their first round. First round people do the chug, and then that determines for the next round, and they pick for the next round, and that goes up and do that, and they go through that way. So yeah, at least that's my understanding of it.

MASON:

Yeah.

THE_BEER_LEAGUER:

Yeah, and I've never done it. It's too much no control over things. I can't handle that. I can't handle that for a team.

MASON:

That's fair.

THE_BEER_LEAGUER:

I need my control over stuff. But yeah, these have always been super fun. I think it is definitely more fun as long as you know everybody that you're going with and hang out them. And I definitely recommend trying to get like an Airbnb over, or all staying in the same hotel. That works too. I assume there's a lot of people stay in the same hotels, and you just be the weirdos that hang out in the lobby or something like that. Or what we've done in the past is kind of go commandeer some of the conference rooms or whatever that aren't locked, and just hang out in there and drink beer all night. That's the thing you can do, too. Or just hang out in the hotel parking lots and talk to people as they come in. These are all things that I have been a part of at tournaments to do. So, and they're all fun. They're all good times. But yeah, I definitely recommend doing one of these BLPA tournaments. Yeah, they're a ton of fun. I'll put links for their tournaments down in the show notes, if you can't remember BLPA. Too many letters. They'll be linked in the show notes for you to click and do that. Also down in the show notes, again, there's the text link stuff. There's the link for the beerleaguer.com, which has all your info for everything on there. Like I said, that's how you can get ahold of the show for everything. You can send voicemails. You can just send regular messages, like an email kind of thing. You can send text messages. It's at the Beer Leaguer, at all the social things, too. So you can find me on there. Occasionally Mason makes appearances on there, but he doesn't check any of that. He doesn't care. I'm the only one who replies to everything. So you can do that stuff too. And like I said, share your experience. I would love to do a follow-up with some people's experiences on here. I would love to get some voicemails from people that were at tournament or other tournaments and respond to them. I think that would be fun and hilarious. Hear what people thought. But hey, maybe if you're one of the teams that played against us. That would be great. Love to hear what you guys think.

MASON:

You guys are a bunch of dicks.

THE_BEER_LEAGUER:

I mean, I hope not, but maybe. I tried not to be, it's probably you.

MASON:

I am the biggest dick.

THE_BEER_LEAGUER:

Nobody gets mad at me out there. I am a little sweetheart that everybody loves. I am. It's the beard. Everybody loves it.

MASON:

We know you are low key, like the roughest player to play against, and I'm probably the nicest player to play against.

THE_BEER_LEAGUER:

I don't think any of that is true at all. None of that is true.

MASON:

Sure, sure, sure. And I always get people always yapping at me. And so it's always me.

THE_BEER_LEAGUER:

It's never me. I've never had anybody yapping at me. At any of these things, even in regular stuff, nobody yaps at me.

MASON:

Yeah.

THE_BEER_LEAGUER:

You know. Or if they do, they're like, hey, how you been?

MASON:

Doing all right? That's true.

THE_BEER_LEAGUER:

Having a good year?

MASON:

That's cool. Giving you a cup check. I wear your jersey, the one game, and someone gave me a cup check.

THE_BEER_LEAGUER:

That's how that works. Just how that goes. They want to make sure it's not there. Make sure that it's still not there.

MASON:

It's weird.

THE_BEER_LEAGUER:

That's when they get scared, if it is there. Like, wait, what's going on? You're supposed to be wearing one of those? All right, we're way off topic there. Nobody needs to hear about me not wearing a cup. Nobody wants to hear about that.

MASON:

Tales for another day.

THE_BEER_LEAGUER:

Or maybe you do. Let me know. Maybe you do. I'll talk all about it.

MASON:

Hit up the show.

THE_BEER_LEAGUER:

Yeah. So, okay, that's going to wrap things up. Mason, thank you very much.

MASON:

Of course.

THE_BEER_LEAGUER:

Dear listener out there, thank you very much. I'm saying this as you specifically the listener, not that there's just one, but just you that's listening right now. Thank you. I appreciate you listening. Thanks a lot, everybody. Go check out thebeerleaguer.com, all the everything's on there. It's the best place on the Internet. Catch you in the next one.

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