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Mike Steiner of Beers on Ice Returns
Mike Steiner of Beers on Ice once again joins the show. We catch up on his summer hockey, both ice and roller, including some tournaments he's playing in. Then we talk about what's coming up for the All Blacks Hockey Club, and his take on the position progression debate. Finally, he teases a new series that may be coming to Beers on Ice.
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Hey, everybody, welcome back to another episode of The Beer Leaguer Podcast. And back by very popular demand, we have Mike Steiner from Beers on Ice.
BEERS_ON_ICE:How's it going, Mike?
THE_BEER_LEAGUER:How are you? Good, man, good, good. How have you been?
BEERS_ON_ICE:Oh, it's been great, and thanks for having me back on the pod.
SPEAKER_3:I've been waiting for the call back.
BEERS_ON_ICE:This was a lot of fun last time, and I hope this health is the same.
THE_BEER_LEAGUER:Yeah, oh, I'm sure it will be. You guys have been doing a lot of interesting things, a lot of different stuff, a lot of changes since last we spoke.
BEERS_ON_ICE:Oh, yeah, I guess we've, you know, the YouTube, Instagram, TikTok world kind of got to be on your toes.
SPEAKER_3:You got to think of new things. You got to bring something fresh to the table. And about a year ago, you know, Big City Keith, Keith Ripka, our star goalie on the team, he introduced me into roller hockey.
SPEAKER_4:He's from, he lived after college.
SPEAKER_3:He went to Niagara University, and after college, he lived in Buffalo, and he started playing roller hockey, skated out, because, you know, goalies, they can only do goalie in one thing. It's like either hockey or roller hockey. That's so true. And he skated out, and he was talking to me about roller hockey, and then just, you know, by coincidence, we have a new roller hockey rink, pseudo roller hockey rink, for the summer out in Rocky River. And we were like, all right, let's go out there and skate together. And then instantaneously, I loved doing it. And then we were like, let's just create a roller hockey organization.
BEERS_ON_ICE:We already got the name, we got the platform. Let's turn Beers on Ice, All Blacks Hockey Club, into the All Blacks Roller Hockey Club. And here we are, like four tournaments later.
THE_BEER_LEAGUER:Yeah, you guys, that's what's crazy to me, is it went from seeing you just kind of start off playing roller, like let's see how it goes. And all of a sudden, now you guys are playing tournaments, playing kind of high level roller tournaments and stuff. It's not just pickup games against people.
SPEAKER_3:Yeah, we, you know, speaking of it, tomorrow we are, you know, packing up the van and we're going to Detroit to play in State Wars. Now, for those that don't know, State Wars is like one of the three huge roller hockey tournaments for the season. It's the number one is out in California. Number two is Wish Cup at Nashville. And number three is State Wars. And that kind of moves around from, you know, state to state. And we're going to test our medal there. It's like the most difficult tournament we'll have played in coming up. And we're going to film it. We're going to record it. The highs and the lows. And we're going to see what happens.
THE_BEER_LEAGUER:That's awesome. Yeah, State Wars is no joke. And they've, that's been around for a long time.
SPEAKER_3:Yeah, I wish I knew more about the history of everything, but one of our players, I guess we call him Coach Harrington, if you've seen the videos. He's the designated coach on the team, even though he's a player. He won State Wars back in 2007, and he's won it three times. So, and he's played in the same division since 2007. So that shows you how the divisions don't really change that much. But, yeah, we're looking to get him off to Schneid and see if we can win a fourth for him.
THE_BEER_LEAGUER:That's awesome. That's awesome.
SPEAKER_3:So, yeah.
THE_BEER_LEAGUER:All right, since you've kind of done this transition, what have you noticed that's different between roller and ice hockey?
SPEAKER_3:Well, for the guys who are listening to this that have never played roller hockey, I'll start with the basics. It's four on four. Instead of five on five, it's four on four, which is unusual. You just have so much more time when you're with the puck. It's just amazing. There's no one around you, which is great for me, because I like to handle the puck and dust it off. But four on four. In most of these tournaments that we play, it's two halves. The one we are playing at State Wars right now is 14 minutes, two halves. So these games go by super quick. Yeah. It goes by a flash. You play multiple games in a day.
SPEAKER_3: So tomorrow, this would be August 1st, we play at 9:40 AM, and then we play again at 3.
SPEAKER_3:So you can't expend all your energy in one game. You got to save your legs for the whole weekend. And then, obviously, the padding is different, too. Like, when I first got on the, I guess, the court, I think is what they call it. When I first got on the court, I had, like, my hockey pants on, I had, like, little smaller shoulder pads, I had my elbow pads, my helmet, and then I looked around and I was like, I am sticking out like a sore thumb right now. I look absolutely ridiculous. And then finally, I've gotten it down to just shin pads, my roller hockey skates, my elbow pads, and my gloves. And that's kind of how you roll with now, too, is the less equipment, the cooler you are when you're out there.
THE_BEER_LEAGUER:Well, it's also to wear, and I see people wear this stuff for ice under their regular padding, is they have, like, those padded shirts, and then padded, like, they like compression shorts, but they're padded, so they have some kind of padding around there. Yeah, that's usually, that's about as padded as anybody gets if you have that stuff, then.
SPEAKER_3:Yeah, I do, I play defensive roller hockey as well, and so I do have a, what do you call that? It's like a girdle. It's not quite hockey pants, but it's like the protection underneath, and then I'll wear something over top of that. So it's like, I do wear more padding than normal, because I, in the beginning, I really didn't know how to play the game very well, so I was just out there trying to block shots and just do the least I could to help my team. And then I've progressively, you know, taken more equipment off as I've gotten used to it. And I've done stopping. That was the craziest thing for me to learn. It was trying to stop on roller hockey skates. That took forever.
THE_BEER_LEAGUER:Now, do you actually, have you mastered doing the actual hockey stop on wheels or are you doing like the quick turn or what?
SPEAKER_3:Definitely the quick turn.
SPEAKER_4:I've mastered the quick turn stop.
SPEAKER_3:And it's funny, I had to watch a Nasher video to... Yeah, I felt it was so ridiculous. I was just like, oh man, I like, I know I'm such a better hockey player than him. And the fact that I have to watch a roller hockey video tutorial to learn how to stop, I'm like, where am I getting that right now? What am I getting myself into? But he, as Nasher does it, he's the best in the game at this YouTube. He made this fantastic video and he taught me how to stop. And so I implemented that in the next game. But the true real roller hockey stop, I have not mastered that yet. But I have once in a while in a game, instinctively, I will stop and it's like the light went off in my head. And I just, I can't do it thinking about it. I can only do it reacting. So.
THE_BEER_LEAGUER:Yeah, it's, that's how I've done it. I've never been able to do the actual regular hockey stop on wheels when I've tried to do it. But when I've played roller hockey, I haven't thought about it and it's happened. And I think it's just because my body does it, but it feels way different. So when I try and do it, I'm like, whoa, whoa, whoa, no, no, no, I'm going to fall, I'm going to fall. That's not right. But when I don't think about it, it's just like, oh yeah, oh, I stopped. Yeah.
SPEAKER_3:And it's, it's just a glorious thing when you actually learn how to actually roller hockey stop. You just, it's, it's one of the best feelings out there in hockey, that's for sure. And there's a sound difference too. Like right now, speaking of Rocky River, we, on Monday nights, we do this pickup hockey for the Ohio Hockey Project in Rocky River. It's a drop in skate, like all levels are, you know, are happy to be there. We've got complete beginners and we actually have a pro roller hockey player that comes every single week and plays with us. His name is Shane Bennett. He is a pro, he's retired, but he was a professional hockey player. He's like 10 years younger than me. And now he plays professional roller hockey. And he still comes every Monday to play with everyone because he's very passionate about building hockey in Cleveland. And he's from Buffalo where they have a ton of roller hockey. And the sound when he stops is like way different than anybody else out there. It's like a super high pitch screech that is way different than this. My like low thud of like the four wheels hitting the sport court. And I was like, all right, that's where I'm trying to get to. That's the guy I'm trying to emulate.
THE_BEER_LEAGUER:Yeah, it's I've played with some pretty high level roller guys. Yeah, and just everything about them is different. Everything about how they go about doing things. You know what? I'm going to throw this back. This is similar. We talked about this last time you were on. Yeah. What you're going through now and seeing kind of like, wow, these guys can do this stuff. That's like where I'm at with ice hockey. Right. Seeing people do this stuff like, wow, I wish I could do that. That's way, you know. That's full circle. Yeah.
SPEAKER_3:That's, it's, and, you know, watching him, Shane Bennett play, I play ice hockey with him too. And he plays two different styles of games when he's playing. When he's playing ice hockey, he's like very quick paced. He's making a lot of like quick moves to get, he's a forward, getting through defenders. And then roller hockey, he just has the puck and you can't get it off of him. He's just holding, holding, looking, circling back, you know, then coming up with speed, he doesn't like what he wants, and then he turns back, and it's like very slow methodical game. But the skill level you can see on both ends is like through, is through the roof. But he can transition from playing the slow methodical roller hockey four on four, where it's all about possession, and then switch back to hockey, where he can, you know, play give and go, you know, get in the puck deep, you know, just making sure you're in good position at all times. It's just really impressive. And that's, that's for me, my struggle in my roller hockey game is adapting to that slower pace and possession.
THE_BEER_LEAGUER:Yeah, it's, it's weird how it's such a different game when it's not that different. I mean, it's one less guy per side, but it's completely a different thing.
SPEAKER_3:Yeah. You'll watch a pro roller hockey game and there will be like six shots in a game and the score will be two to one. And because the guys, they're all about waiting for the right opportunity to like make their move and try to score. And they'll even like come down the wing. And if they don't like what they want, they'll rip a shot high and wide, purposely like by the goalie's ear. They're not trying to score. They're just ripping it high and wide so it goes around the boards all the way back to their far D man and then they'll regroup. It's like, I'm like, what is going on? This is just not hockey. Like, why aren't you getting it deep and like trying to like bang some bodies down there? Like, it's just not happening.
THE_BEER_LEAGUER:It's, I, at one point, I was, cause I was talking to somebody about the differences and I compared roller to being a lot more like the three on three that the NHL does in overtime. That's a lot more like that, where it's, cause the guys do that in the overtime, where they skate it in and they, you know, wait, wait, wait, if they don't like it, you know, bring it back, even put the puck back to the goalie and, you know, just keep resetting until you get exactly what you want.
SPEAKER_3:Right. It's, yeah, it's, I think it's even more drastic than that three on three.
THE_BEER_LEAGUER:Yeah.
SPEAKER_3:Like, cause it's, they, in the three on three NHL, it's timed, right? So like, they gotta take chances. Cause like, sometimes you just don't want to go to a shootout. But in roller hockey, it's just, that's my one gripe with it is, come on guys, let's play. Like, let's stop regrouping. Someone try to come down and score, all right. And honestly, that's how we got beat in our Wish Cup semi-final game. Like, we got all the way, it was crazy. We got all the way to the semi-finals in Wish Cup. And we played a team that was like, ranked lower than us. And they just roller hockey'd us to death. And they just like, possessed it and brought it back, got the lead and then just held the puck the whole time. And I was like, this game is a lot of fun, when you take it to that elite, elite level, it's kind of annoying. So, we're gonna stay at our, like, senior A league. We're not trying to go up to double A. We're not trying to do pro, where you get four shots in a game. We're just, we like our running gun offense on the All Blacks Roller Hockey Club.
THE_BEER_LEAGUER:Yeah, that was, for me, transitioning, because I started in roller, you know, and went to ice, that was a big difference for me, because I was used to that just like hang on to the puck. Like, because that's what I used to do with when I played roller with my team. Kind of my role was the...
SPEAKER_3:Yeah, at what, Lost Nation?
THE_BEER_LEAGUER:Yeah, I just stand there and I would kind of wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, you know, kind of let everybody kind of do their movement. Maybe if I have to kind of move a little bit, but mostly just try and stay in one spot. And, you know, sometimes you're waiting, you know, 30, 40 seconds before you go, oh, okay, now I'll pass to this guy, who's probably just going to wait for us to move a little bit more, you know, and I was so used to that. And then going on to ice, it seemed like so much stuff was happening so fast all the time, because it's, yeah, very, very different how everything gets set up.
SPEAKER_3:And, you know, holding the puck in ice hockey too long is like detrimental to the team. Oh, yeah.
THE_BEER_LEAGUER:I did that many times.
SPEAKER_3:Not only you're giving up goals, but everyone hates you for being a puck hog, too.
THE_BEER_LEAGUER:Yeah.
SPEAKER_3:But in roller hockey, it's like encouraged. Oh, it's, I don't know, it's something you've just got to get used to.
THE_BEER_LEAGUER:That's also, too, I think, why you see a lot of these guys that play a lot of roller hockey. Because I've seen a lot of people that played ice, went to roller, and then back to ice, kind of do that trend back and forth. It helps their hands so much. And with the puck, because you do do a lot of just, like you said, skate it back out with the puck, skate around with it, hold on to it. And yeah, it's like some of the best puck handling training I think that you can have is doing that.
SPEAKER_3:Yeah, and I think moving forward for young kids in the hockey world, in the past, during the summers, you know, kids would play baseball, kids would play lacrosse. And now a lot of these families are doing roller hockey instead. You know, the kids are specializing and you know, they're sport at a super early age now. Now the debate whether that's good or bad, I don't know, but they're specializing. At least to like give yourself a little bit of a fresh new look, roller hockey's great for that. And it builds confidence, you know, if you're struggling with some stick handling or just possessing the puck, like you're forced to do it in roller hockey, or you know, your team's gonna lose. So I think it's great for kids to do the roller hockey. And in all honesty, it's like, it's a much cheaper option, I think, than a lot of other sports. You know, baseball bats are extremely expensive and like doing all the travel, especially lacrosse too. And you know, all you need is some skates and you know, a court to roll on. You can get your outdoor skates and your indoor skates and a hockey stick that you already have. And you know, now you got your summer sport. And then you can do some traveling too.
THE_BEER_LEAGUER:Yeah. I mean, that's why I played roller growing up, because it was way cheaper than trying to get ice anywhere and play ice. And it was a great use of the bargain bin sticks at the hockey stores.
SPEAKER_3:Yeah.
THE_BEER_LEAGUER:You know, because you don't care if they get beat up and chewed up, because they're going to because you're playing outside.
SPEAKER_3:Yes. I don't know if you remember this back in the 90s, we had street heat down in the, I guess that was the west bank of the flats by the powerhouse.
THE_BEER_LEAGUER:Yeah.
SPEAKER_3:I remember this, and if Dan Kalecki ever sees this, like shout out Dan Kalecki, he was the Shaker Heights goalie. He won a state championship for Shaker Heights, and he was an amazing goalie. He eventually played club hockey at Penn State University, which is tough to do coming from high school hockey, but he was the best roller hockey forward out there. And he was on my team for street heat, and we won it a few times, and it was all because Dan Kalecki. So shout out Dan Kalecki if you're listening to this.
THE_BEER_LEAGUER:I loved street heat. I played in every year that they had it. I played it with a bunch of buddies, and we were awful. The teams usually were terrible with it because we weren't little kids. Like we were like teenagers. So they always put us with like the adults. And it was all the adults that like, all knew what they were doing, and they're really good, and just destroyed us. But it was great. It was a super fun time.
SPEAKER_3:But we definitely need to rebuild the love for roller hockey in Cleveland. I think there's a space for it. We just need to build the rink. We need the, if you build it, they will come. Like, the Lost Nation, I know I've never been there, but that's not there anymore. Nope. And we just have the temporary roller hockey rink out of Rocky River, and that's just once a week. So, like, man, if any investors out there thinks they want to make a buck here, I think building a roller hockey rink in Cleveland might be quite lucrative.
THE_BEER_LEAGUER:I mean, the main rink that I used to go out and play on was at an outdoor YMCA. And it was, they had tennis courts, and they just, like, took two of the tennis courts, put a fence around it, took the nets out and everything, obviously, and that was a roller rink.
SPEAKER_3:Yeah.
THE_BEER_LEAGUER:I mean, that's kind of all you have to do. It's not anything crazy. Or more of these rinks that take their ice out in the summer, like, you can take the ice out and save, you know, the cost of all that, but have roller during, you know, during the summer then. I don't know why every rink doesn't do that.
SPEAKER_3:You're right. And there are, like, Gilmore Academy out in Gates Mills, they have two ice, which is crazy, by the way, they have two rinks on campus. They're, like, the only high school in Ohio that has an ice hockey rink, and they got two of them. And one of them is taken down during the summer. Just throw that in there. I mean, the cost, the cost of maintaining that is super low. There's no refrigerating cost. It's just, you know, I don't know, maybe we're thinking of a good idea here that, and then, and to build the thing, it's just like, you know, Nasher built his ice hockey rink, or sorry, roller hockey rink, I think he built his roller hockey rink in Columbus, basically out of an old storage warehouse. I mean, it could be done.
THE_BEER_LEAGUER:Yeah, and that's the great thing with, you know, much like the gear, the actual rink for roller is way cheaper because you don't need a refrigerator, you don't need anything like that, you know, you know, you just, a large level surface.
SPEAKER_3:Yes.
THE_BEER_LEAGUER:That's it.
SPEAKER_3:That's it. It's a board.
THE_BEER_LEAGUER:Yeah, I mean.
SPEAKER_3:And a couple of locker rooms.
BEERS_ON_ICE:That's a temporary stance.
THE_BEER_LEAGUER:Lock rooms is a nice bonus. I've played plenty of places where you're just changing on the bench.
SPEAKER_3:Yeah, that gets greasy afterwards. But you know, if I'm going to, if I'm going to build this rink, it's going to be good. It's going to have some locker rooms in there.
THE_BEER_LEAGUER:And showers.
SPEAKER_3:Showers. Yes. Lock room, then showers.
THE_BEER_LEAGUER:Yeah.
SPEAKER_3:Definitely a fine if you're not showering afterwards.
THE_BEER_LEAGUER:I still have guys on my ice team that don't shower after games. And again, if you don't shower, because you live close to the rink and you're going right home, I can kind of see. But there's guys that don't shower and then go out with us afterwards.
SPEAKER_3:That is the greasiest thing I've ever heard. You can't do that.
THE_BEER_LEAGUER:I can't, like, I can't fathom that. I can't say I'm doing that.
SPEAKER_3:That's more than justifying. There's a whole other level of punishment that needs to happen if the guys are not showering and leaving to go to public.
THE_BEER_LEAGUER:Yeah, like, I just, I don't know, I feel disgusting after I play. I want to shower.
SPEAKER_3:Yeah.
THE_BEER_LEAGUER:And the last thing I want to do if I haven't showered is go some, you know, I get if you're just in the parking lot, that's gross, but whatever you're hanging out in the parking lot. But, you know, we're going out to somewhere and getting food after the game and like, how are you able to do this and not feel just gross?
SPEAKER_3:Right, minimal, you at least gotta wash your hands. And minimally, those hockey gloves are so bad, they smell horrible, you gotta least wash your gloves. I, you know, maybe your hair is fine, you can put a hat on, you know, as long as you're not wearing your Gitch out there.
BEERS_ON_ICE:Let's just wash your head.
THE_BEER_LEAGUER:I think it's less egregious in the winter. I feel like, because you're throwing on like probably sweatpants and hoodie afterwards. Whereas like now in the summer, like, Oh, it's just bacon inside of you. You know, it's gross and hot outside. I'm going and getting super sweaty and then I'm just gonna go throw on a T-shirt and shorts and go be gross outside some more, like, but no, no.
SPEAKER_3:That's a tough look. So boards, locker, shower, those are our three things. Now we got ourselves a rink.
THE_BEER_LEAGUER:There you go. Perfect. Perfect. I will come play when you open this rink up.
SPEAKER_3:Yeah. I mean, boy, it would be for we'll have adult leagues. We'll have kids leagues to drop in and then we'll have the tournaments. And if we can get our build up our following to get the channel, we can bring some creators in there. And then, bam, all of a sudden, we're the kings of roller hockey in Cleveland.
THE_BEER_LEAGUER:There you go. I will unretire my roller skates. I don't know, somewhere over here. I haven't used them in years.
SPEAKER_3:Those are, you know, roller hockey skates are inexpensive as well. I mean, I bought mine from Bauer for like less than $200. They were on sale. It was, I mean, you can't even touch a quality hockey skate for, you know, under $800. Yeah.
THE_BEER_LEAGUER:Yeah, it's crazy how different the prices are on that stuff. I don't get it because, yeah, I was actually looking at it. I need to get some new ice skates soon, I think. Right. I don't want to do it. It's way too expensive. But if I had to get new roller blades, I'd be like, yeah, sure. I can do that. Not a big deal, you know.
SPEAKER_3:Yeah. I haven't crossed that threshold yet. I still use my hockey skates for my last year pro. They look, they're, you know, I tell the camera guy, just don't zoom in on the skates, please. Like everything else is new. Just leave the skates alone on the camera, please. I haven't crossed over that threshold to get new ones. A couple of my buddies have recently, and the prices are out of this world. So I gotta build the channel so someone gets me some free skates. That's the goal. There you go. Once I get a free set, I don't care. Bauer, CCM, even give me the graphs. Like we'll throw some graph sponsorships out there. Give me some, I just, that is, as soon as I get a free pair of hockey skates, I made it, for sure.
THE_BEER_LEAGUER:That'd be pretty good. That'd be pretty nice. I would love that. Hey, I want a sponsorship for skates if anybody's listening.
BEERS_ON_ICE:Yeah, just get it all.
SPEAKER_3:Every content creator in Cleveland, let's get them hooked up.
THE_BEER_LEAGUER:Yeah, I could use them. I have the issue because I have to get custom skates.
SPEAKER_3:Oh boy.
THE_BEER_LEAGUER:I have giant feet. Okay. So I can't ever find regular skates. So I'm already at super expensive level.
SPEAKER_3:Yeah. Regular skates for me, anyone out there listening.
THE_BEER_LEAGUER:I'll see what I can do if I know anybody.
SPEAKER_3:There you go.
THE_BEER_LEAGUER:Try and put it out there. All right. So you guys have been doing the roller stuff. You said you got state wars coming up here. Any other roller on the horizon after that?
SPEAKER_3:Oh, yeah. We're going down the Columbus in two weeks, and then we're playing in the heat wave showdown against Nasher in the Columbus Heat. We are continuing our rivalry against the king of YouTube. That is going to be fun. And I guess a little bit of a secret that I'll let out now, I'm bringing a super team down there. I am pulling all the stops. I am bringing the best players I found in Cleveland for roller hockey and we're going there to win a championship. State Wars, who knows what happens. Any team gets lucky, but that's some really highly competitive, there's like 50 teams, it's crazy. That's gonna be really tough. But State Wars, sorry, the Heatwave Showdown is a smaller tournament, and I'm bringing everyone, and we're gonna try to win our first tournament there. So that's gonna be a lot of fun, I would say. It would be our third time going down to Nashor's New Rink, and I'm excited for State Wars tomorrow. I'm even more excited for the Showdown coming up in two weeks.
THE_BEER_LEAGUER:That's awesome. So, let me think, so two weeks, that is gonna be like the weekend of the, like...
SPEAKER_3:That's the 16th and 17th. 16th, yeah, 16th, 17th.
THE_BEER_LEAGUER:All right, putting the dates of people listening would like to go check it out.
SPEAKER_3:Yeah.
THE_BEER_LEAGUER:You know, because...
SPEAKER_3:Get on YouTube, get on a YouTube video, they have an amazing rink there. I don't know if you've ever seen one of the videos from it, but the whole side of the rink behind one of the goalie of the nets is just pure glass. There's no boards whatsoever. And you can literally skate behind the net, you stop and you turn behind you, and there is a person right next to the glass, like full shoes all the way to the hat. And it's just like, it's the craziest thing I've ever seen. They're just right. It's the coolest place to play in. It's a small rink too. It's a little bit smaller than a normal roller hockey rink, so the game goes by way faster, and it's a lot of fun to watch and play.
THE_BEER_LEAGUER:Yeah, that wall of glass, I've seen that, and that would throw me off so much. I couldn't imagine playing with that. Yeah, that would really mess me up.
SPEAKER_3:I've run into it accidentally before, just because it snuck up on me, and obviously I couldn't stop back then. And I cut that out of the video, so no one ever saw it, but.
THE_BEER_LEAGUER:Oh, come on, you gotta put that out.
SPEAKER_3:Yeah, you know, maybe at some of the, you know, the blooper reels coming out, but it's a really cool thing, and I think it was a great design that they had in mind to do it. Whether they like ran out of boards, I don't know, or like they designed it the whole time, who knows? I would say it's probably the latter, but it's so cool, and we're excited to go to both of those.
THE_BEER_LEAGUER:That would be hilarious if it was, they just ran out of boards. That would be great if that's what it was.
SPEAKER_3:They're like, wait, wait, like, wait a minute, like, how long is this thing? They're like, oh, shoot. Do you have any more left? No.
THE_BEER_LEAGUER:That'd be awesome. I'm going to pretend that that's the story, that that's where you can have that.
SPEAKER_3:Wait, wait, you heard it here first, on the Beer Leaguer podcast.
THE_BEER_LEAGUER:That's right. That national and the guys don't know how to do math. That was the problem.
SPEAKER_3:No, no, they're not.
THE_BEER_LEAGUER:That's tough. There's not curves and stuff. And there's a there's a lot of math involved with it.
SPEAKER_3:I wish it was true, but Cody Wheeler, his co-running mate for basically the, you know, the Nasher's Channel and the Heatwave Arena there. He is a, you know, construction guy and he has a background in contracting. So I doubt that they did run out of a board. I mean, it at least wasn't not a math error because I know he's a sharp dude and he wouldn't make, he wouldn't mess that up. So sorry, I had to shut you out there, Cody, but he's a good guy too. I like him.
THE_BEER_LEAGUER:I'll just pretend, I'm going to still pretend in my head.
SPEAKER_3:That's why you cut that out too. Yeah.
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SPEAKER_3:Yeah. I guess right now we're filming two different leagues. Well, we're off from the wintertime. We're filming my B-League Beer League series out in Mentor, playing in the Madman Hockey League run by Team Sadler. His first name is Sean Sadler. And then I'm doing the Summer Elite League, which is run by the Ohio Hockey Project and Russ Sinkiewicz out on the west side in Lakewood. So it's like night and day of what I'm doing from week to week. It's Tuesdays or the B-League Beer League, which has been a ton of fun for me. And our team is amazing. It's just been kind of, it's been, I don't know, it's been just a nice, fresh, what am I trying to say? It's just been, it's been fun to meet a bunch of new guys. Obviously, I know a few of them, they're on my team, but a lot of the guys are new. And it's obviously competitive, but not as competitive as Sunday Night League. So the guys are just having a ball on the bench. They're chirping each other more than the other teams. And we're having beers afterwards. There's guys from other teams coming into each other's locker rooms, and everyone's watching each other's games. It's very much a more relaxed environment than the Sunday Night League, where everyone is so highly competitive, which I also love that too. It's been a fresh, you know, new look under Beer League Hockey. But, you know, it doesn't mean we're not competitive on the ice, too. There's been some dramatic moments with guys like chirping each other pretty hard and guys getting kicked out. That's just because we're all hockey players and we, you know, we're different from on and off. That's going to happen. Yeah. Yeah. And then obviously playing in the, and then the following day is Wednesday, and I play in the Summer Elite League with all current, you know, college and pro players. And I'm on the old retired pro team who, last year we won the league, which was crazy, but we had some help from some, like, really quality young hockey players. And they kind of nerfed our team. They, you know, split us up into two different teams and gave us more old guys. So we are struggling this year to keep up with the young guys. It's, I guess I, you know, it gave out some clues for the next videos coming out, but we're having a tough time this year. And it's just because, you know, Cleveland hockey's getting better and better and these young kids, they're bigger, they're faster, they're stronger. And our old wisdom of hockey is starting to catch up with us. And I guess our wisdom's still there, but our speed and skills kind of slowing down. So we got playoffs coming up. We're probably the most dangerous for last place team in the playoffs, but hopefully we can turn around and win one. Go back to back.
THE_BEER_LEAGUER:Nice, nice. Yeah, you got a lot of, all kinds of different hockey. Very, very different in every aspect going on for you.
SPEAKER_3:Yeah.
THE_BEER_LEAGUER:How is that?
SPEAKER_3:Oh, it's great. I've actually never felt better currently right now in my physical shape for the past, I would say, five years playing this much hockey. I do Monday's roller, Tuesday's B-league, beer league and Wednesday's elite summer training league. And then I literally crash and burn Thursday, Friday, Saturday and finally Sunday, like wake up and I'm like, all right, let's do it again. It's been, but physically, I feel amazing by the more I skate currently right now, is the better I'm feeling and my mood is great too, which, you know, I guess coming out of the winter, everyone's a little depressed and obviously the summer's been, it's been nice here in Cleveland. Yeah. But I'm telling you, the more you skate, the better you feel. It's been great. And I just encourage people to play as much hockey as they possibly can. Now, you know, everything's different for everyone. People have kids, you know, people have significant others. They, you know, they're only a lot of certain amount of time. You know, I'm lucky that I'm able to at least get out three times a week. And I encourage everyone to do that too.
THE_BEER_LEAGUER:Well, one, I'll reiterate a quote that I've had on this podcast a couple of times now, that kids ruin everything. So I'm sticking with that. That keeps coming up for me to say that. And I think you just proved part of the point there. But I think also, too, what you're saying, because in my head, what I'm thinking of is like, three nights a week of hockey, that's a lot of hockey. I love playing hockey, I love skating, but that's kind of a lot. But I think it's a difference of roller to ice and how you're saying for kids, when they try and do different things in the off season, and they're playing lacrosse and stuff, which I'll use lacrosse as an example, because lacrosse is very similar to hockey in a lot of ways, but it's not the same. And I think, to me, I think of roller hockey in the same way, roller hockey to ice hockey. It's very similar to ice hockey, but it's not the same. So it's like you're not, like skating isn't even really the same. It's close, but it's not quite the same. So it's kind of, I don't know if I'm making any sense. You're kind of like working out and doing different things that aren't going to tire you out because you're not playing like on the ice three nights a week, you're doing something a little bit different, but you're still being active and they help each other. So the stuff you're doing in roller is helping ice and vice versa.
SPEAKER_3:Right, absolutely. And I will say, the first period after I play roller hockey on Monday and then the first period, sorry, after I play roller hockey on Monday, the first period in ice hockey on Tuesday is an absolute disaster. And it's because those roller hockey wheels, they're tilted just slightly forward. So like the front two wheels, as you know, are a little bit smaller than the back two wheels. And then in ice hockey skates, they're a little bit more flat. Especially me, I have them flat just because I play defense. And so I want to be able to skate backwards well. I am like falling over the first period over my feet, like on my feet. I'm just falling straight over on my ice hockey skates when I'm making the transition. But in general, that is extremely similar. It's the same motion. It's the same movement in your hips. But there are slight differences like you're talking about. And yeah, they do translate very well.
THE_BEER_LEAGUER:Yeah, so I just think it proves what you said, that kids should be playing more roller hockey, and you got to get that roller rink built.
SPEAKER_3:Jeez, oh yeah.
BEERS_ON_ICE:So I got a lot going on right now.
SPEAKER_3:Well, I need to maybe just send that through ChatGPT to figure out the plans for that.
THE_BEER_LEAGUER:So kind of going on with the stuff that you've been doing since we last talked. One of the things I have noticed, and I know I've greatly enjoyed, I think you've enjoyed making them, is more kind of short form content that you've been putting out. Like I've really like, I don't even know what to call it. It's kind of like a series of things that you've done. They've been like in the locker room.
SPEAKER_3:Yeah, I call it the How To Beer League Hockey Series. And I feel like I'm poking fun at myself.
THE_BEER_LEAGUER:I mean, I guess, yeah, but it's every single one that you do, and it's, you know, I guess you are probably poking fun at yourself with it, but every single one that I see with it, I laugh at it because it's either, oh yeah, I do that too. Or it's, oh no, I know 10 guys on my team that exactly or exactly like that do that same thing, say that same thing, or with it. It's one of those, it's super, super relatable, all that stuff.
SPEAKER_3:And honestly, it's been kind of fun because, you know, in the past, for Instagram and TikTok and YouTube Shorts, all that short form content, I would just, you know, break up clips of my long form content. And it's more of like trying to get people to move towards your YouTube channel. And instead of that, I was like, man, like, I need, there are two different, there are three different style of platforms. Like, not everyone watches YouTube, only people watch Instagram, not everyone watches TikTok, and they only watch this and that. And they're all different audiences, but they're all part of your community. And I think, to really maximize the fun in all this, you have to think about every single different community that's there. Like, your long form content, those are people that want to sit down and watch YouTube, but not everyone wants to sit down and watch you on YouTube. They might just want to see 30 seconds of what you have to do. So I like sat there and I'm like, all right, well, I think I need to reinvent the Instagram and then the TikTok. And so like, what's something that like I kind of laugh about all the time and it's like the interactions in the locker room or like what, you know, funny characters or, you know, you know, what do I do to prepare to a hockey game? Like I was sitting in my car, going to a game and I was like jamming out. I was like, this would be hilarious if someone found out what I was actually listening to on the way to the game. And so, you know, threw a camera up there and I thought that was funny or like, you know, guys on my Sunday Night League team, there's only, you know, two or three guys that bring beer every week. And what about the guys who like never bring beers? I think that would be funny, like how do they find out, how do they find a way to get beers to the game? So it's just like, it's, I think it's been fun. It's been a lot more challenging for me to think of fun stuff to do, but I've got a few things in the bag that I'm working on, but I'm trying to do a little collaboration with some companies to get the wheels turning and waiting back for some messages. So we'll see where it goes.
THE_BEER_LEAGUER:Wow. Okay. Yeah. Like I said, I've been loving those. Just to remind everybody, it's Beers on Ice on all the platforms. Yeah, pretty easy to find everywhere. So I recommend following.
SPEAKER_3:Appreciate the plug.
THE_BEER_LEAGUER:Of course. And I recommend following you on all the platforms because they are, it's different stuff. It isn't just following you on YouTube and TikTok. Like your TikTok isn't just 30 second clips of the YouTube videos. It's actual short form videos and same thing for Instagram and everything. So follow on everything, guys.
SPEAKER_3:Yeah, I appreciate that. And we haven't broken into little individual, every platform has their more individual viewers too. Like we've got the long form on YouTube. You have your more like video highlights and like pictures on Instagram. We haven't broken into the dancing on TikTok yet, but that's a platform that we could get into. I have a history of it. My parents made me do dancing when I was a kid, ballroom dancing. There could be some collaborations moving forward with some dancing. So I'm not sure if I would put that up there or not. I, you know, you have to.
THE_BEER_LEAGUER:Yeah, I don't have to.
SPEAKER_3:I don't know. It's yeah, we could see.
THE_BEER_LEAGUER:I think I think that's what everybody wants to see now. We'll see. We'll see one video.
SPEAKER_3:We'll see how that does. And if I make a fool of myself, we might we might end that trend.
THE_BEER_LEAGUER:Oh, no, if you make a fool of yourself, you have to double down on it. That's how that goes.
SPEAKER_3:Yeah, you're probably right. That's how it goes.
THE_BEER_LEAGUER:So speaking of Tik Tok, the thing that I have found that really gets people engaged in it is I don't consider them hot takes on things. They're just my opinions on like random stuff. And one of the ones that had a lot of responses for me lately, and I'd like to hear what you think, is from the perspective of someone starting hockey, beginner beer leaguer, some of the, not your level, not your level, because you've already gone through this. But progression that people should have, learning different positions. Because I go with every skater should at least have a passing knowledge of all the positions. You should at least kind of know what everybody's doing. And so what would you say for somebody starting out, like as an adult, the progression of positions that they should play?
SPEAKER_3:Well, I was thinking, before you said as an adult, I had a different idea. So I'm gonna start with my different idea, and then we'll get to the adult, because there's a lot different. So I did see that clip. And I will say that you're getting lots of traction coming forward with those style of clips. Thousands and thousands of views, and it's pretty cool to see. And it's like, oh, that's my buddy, he's doing great. But I would say when I first saw it, I thought the opposite. I thought you got to start from the back, moving forward in hockey. And if you could afford to do it, start as a goalie. The goalies actually see everything out on the ice. They know what players wear, they know who's playing well. They're literally sitting there, it's like a camera, then they're watching the entire game unfold in front of them. And they even see the opposite goalie. And they know who's good, who's not, who's playing well. And they can see the whole game. And then I would move up to defensemen after that. And that's just the next step in watching the game. Because indeed, you're being conservative, you're trying to stay back, and you're obviously watching the play develop in front of you. You obviously have to learn how to skate backwards. But that's not that much of a necessity when you're starting out. I understand, like you were saying, like the, what did you say? It wasn't like the responsibility, but it was like the more responsibility, the less responsibility you have to the outcome of the game is probably the easiest place to start. So you said winger, defense, then center. You know, if you at least learn to stay in the proper zones when you're playing defense, it's hard to mess that up. Yeah. And you know, you stay between the dots, you know, in the neutral zone, and then all the way down to the tops of the circles, and then you can kind of span out. But if you're staying in your little box there, it's hard to get beat. And then obviously I would switch to center, center after defense, because now you're still part of the defensive side. Yes, it is a big responsibility to be center, but you can play a very passive center in the offensive zone and still not get scored on. And then last would be the winger. And I think winger is the hardest position to play out of all of them. Especially since I started, oh yeah, I started playing winger in the B League beer team now. Because I was like, I'm sick of playing D, I'm not gonna play D, I'm gonna blow up trying to score some goals. Playing defense on winger, not being a winger, is extremely difficult, I think. Because you gotta, if the puck's on your, not on your side, you gotta pick up that guy in the high slot, and then all of a sudden that puck gets rimmed to your side, and you're skating and you're like, oh crap, I, you know, I choked, I cheated down too far, and now you're, it's just chaos, in my opinion. Defense is so much easier. You got your side of the ice, guy's over there, puck's over there, okay, that's my guy over there, and then goes the other side, I go sit in front of the net, and take a, you know, you know, take a rest. So, I think wingers, it's a disaster, and I would do that last after you learn how to play goalie, defense, center, then wing.
THE_BEER_LEAGUER:Wow, okay. So, pretty much the exact opposite of what I said. And I totally agree on the goalie thing. I don't think it's really realistic for like adults, but I think it's good because a lot of kids, they do, I know for like little kid teams, they rotate kids through in goal a lot of times. And I think, even if kids don't want to end up playing goalie, I think it's a good thing for exactly like what you said. I think it's completely outside of the other positions, how it works, the stuff you see and everything. So, I think it's good just to have that perspective, just to do it a couple of times. I mean, I played goalie a couple of times a long time ago. I was awful. Very admittedly, I was just terrible at it. But it was just one of those like eye opening, like, oh man, okay, this is, you know, skating out. I think goalies should be doing this, but then you're in net, you're like, I don't see this stuff over here because I'm watching the puck here. I don't know what's happening there. You gotta, you know, it encourages, I think, the goalies to talk more and the skaters to talk to the goalie more and stuff. So, yeah, okay. So is that any different for what you think for someone as an adult starting hockey?
SPEAKER_3:Yeah. So, yeah, obviously the goal tending is probably, like we said, it's not quite feasible to do that. But I would, I would say one caveat is like, can you skate backwards or not? Like, if you can't skate backwards, let's not start out D, but then I would say center. So you can, it's pretty easy. You just stay in the center of the ice. Like, if you really don't know what you're doing, be that high forward, make sure you're not leaving on man Russians coming back. And then in the D zone, you're lining up with that center, center on center. Just stay with your guy. If you can't skate backwards, just skate with them. And so I feel like center would be a lot easier to teach someone who doesn't know the game. You've got some pretty simple rules there. And obviously, then I would say obviously, center, defense, if you can skate backwards, I think defense would be next. Once again, the simple rules of being between the dots. And then once bucks on your side, you go get them. And when it's not, you're staying in front of the net. And like I said, he can't do the winger.
BEERS_ON_ICE:The winger is the hardest one.
SPEAKER_3:Even though there's like the least responsibility if you get scored on. But I mean, I kind of, every man has to do their own, every person has to do their own, you know, do their job to make sure no one's scoring. It's just not one person because a goal scored from like four different mistakes. So obviously, I think without being said, I don't like playing winger in my new position. Maybe the guys hear this and they'll put me in center next game.
THE_BEER_LEAGUER:Yeah, because usually, I play defense. And I've kind of over the summer now, I've been playing a little bit more wing. And it's I 100% agree, playing defense as a wing is hard because you have to, I feel like you're way more honest. Your head's got to be on swivel.
SPEAKER_3:Yeah.
THE_BEER_LEAGUER:Like way more because the play is mostly the plays behind you.
SPEAKER_3:Right.
THE_BEER_LEAGUER:For the most part. So it's, but you got to like faith, you got to watch your guy that's in front of you.
SPEAKER_3:Right.
THE_BEER_LEAGUER:And so I think that that is really difficult. But I do think for like lower level beer league, that doesn't really get taken advantage of a whole lot. Because there's a lot of times that I'm playing wing and I'm kind of covering the D, I'm doing an awful job. Like I am not really on the guy. Like I'm in the area, but I'm not doing a great job. They just, they don't think to you know, they don't rim the puck around, they don't really ever go D to D. Like if the D gets it, it's kind of a mistake. Yeah. You know, and they saved it from, you know, going out of the zone. So it's kind of, at least from what I see in the stuff I play, is it kind of, that doesn't matter as much.
SPEAKER_3:Right.
BEERS_ON_ICE:You're totally right.
SPEAKER_3:And maybe they're just resting too. Like they just were in the D zone, you only have maybe four D that night. Like, man, don't pass me the puck in the offensive zone.
BEERS_ON_ICE:I'm just kind of here, trying to catch my breath.
THE_BEER_LEAGUER:That's what I do. That's what I do when I'm playing D and I'm in the offensive zone. I don't want the puck. I'm like hanging out like, yeah, yeah, yeah. Hopefully I can just pull a guy away to be with me and that's it.
SPEAKER_3:Yeah. But it's interesting.
THE_BEER_LEAGUER:Okay. Well, that's interesting. Okay. So you completely go against what I said. Got it.
SPEAKER_3:All right.
BEERS_ON_ICE:It's okay.
THE_BEER_LEAGUER:Okay.
SPEAKER_3:We're here to embrace debate as ESPN would say.
THE_BEER_LEAGUER:Do you have any other things coming up that you want to talk about?
SPEAKER_3:I guess we've got the roller hockey, we've got the mentor and the Summer Elite League Playoffs coming up. And then, I'm going to be honest, I'm kind of, you know, I've got all that planned up through, you know, late summer, early fall, and then I don't know what's coming next, I guess is the answer to what is coming up. Like I said in my last video for the Summer Elite League, sorry, sorry, for the Winter Sunday Night League, I wasn't going to do it anymore. And after we won our last championship, like our ninth in a row and our tenth, you know, championship out of 11 years, I was, you know, I wanted to do something new. And initially it was to not play at an elite level, and, you know, a high beer league level. And it was to kind of do more content in the, you know, I would say more fun, or just less serious B league, you know, lower level beer leagues. But then when I was like, man, I feel like I'm missing out on something. And I think it falls back to the last time I played pro was I lost in game seven of the finals for the, you know, the championship. And that has always bugged me for the longest time. And it still does, like, game seven in overtime, it was just brutal. And that's always bugged me. So I kind of, and I mentioned this in the first summer elite league video that's coming out on this week, that I want to try to play another professional hockey game. Whether it's the lowest league possible, or, you know, maybe even making a trip back to Europe to do a game, I want to kind of get back into really good hockey shape and try to play one more pro game. And I turned 40 in February, and the fact that there's still guys in the NHL at 40 playing, I mean, Marshawn's not 40, but Perry's 40, and there's guys out there that are playing 82 games that are my age that are still doing it, like, why the heck can I not play one game in a minor league? Like, I could do it. I mean, it's all a matter of how much effort I put into it. And so, I said that in the episode that's gonna come out, that I wanna play one more pro game, and that is, you know, that's the next challenge that I think I'm gonna do. The episode hasn't dropped out, it hasn't dropped yet, so I do have like four days to edit that out.
THE_BEER_LEAGUER:No, but you have it here now, so it doesn't matter, it's here now. It's not gonna get edited out.
SPEAKER_3:I still have a chance to back out on it, but I might not. I'm serious. The only thing I'm a little worried about is the contact. I think I can survive a game, obviously a game, but will I get hurt is the question. Like, I think I still have the skill, maybe not the speed, but I at least have the mindset that I can do it, whether or not it's the full contact, which is the issue. You know, do I still have the ability to go back and dig out a puck in the corner and being able to, that's skill though. Those are skills that in hockey is being able to protect yourself. Like being able to go at the right angle to the corner to make sure you don't get crushed by F1. And being able to, you know, skating back at full speed, check your shoulders, make a decision on where the puck's going and put your body in the appropriate angle not to get murdered through the wall. That's what I'm actually worried about is, will I survive a pro game again? Now, with saying that, the game has never been more skill-oriented. These guys, you see every draft pick now, they're like a buck sixty. They're not, they are six feet tall. You know, they're still athletic guys, but they're just not like they used to be. They're not like Eric Lindroth's coming out. Right. You know, the game is different. It's all ski, it's all skill, speed, intelligence and hard work. And there's far less hitting than there is. But that's at the NHL. I can't tell you the last time I watched a minor league hockey game. I don't know what's going on down there in the jungle. You know, in the East Coast, in the SP. I mean, I'm sure it's not all speed and skill down there, which is probably way more physical, because guys are trying to make a name for themselves. So, jeez, you know, every time I talk about it, I talk myself out of it. But man, that would be kind of cool to do a huge video with my return to pro hockey. That would be an amazing video. That would be so much fun.
THE_BEER_LEAGUER:I think you gotta do it. I think you gotta do it. I think it would be amazing. And I will say, the whole time you're saying this, the thing that I'm thinking of is you just have to pick the right league. Because as someone that watches a lot of very low level pro hockey, there's some of those, I mean, for the most part, kind of how the NHL is, what you said, how it's changed, that's trickled down. You know, it's trickling down to the lower levels. But there are still some of those still pro leagues, but like barely pro leagues, but that has not reached yet. And they still have, you know, half the team is the 6'5, you know, bodybuilder goon guys that can barely skate, but can, you know, just beat the crap out of you. So don't join one of those.
SPEAKER_4:Don't join one of those.
SPEAKER_3:Well, also, it's a matter of like, who's gonna take me for a game, you know? Are they looking to, you know, boost their social media presence so they'll take me for the game, or are they like really don't care? And I think it's a huge challenge, not just getting into shape, you know, getting yourself back into not just shape, but like hockey shape is way different than actually being able to run like 10 miles. Hockey shape is way different. And then the challenge of finding the team that will take you for a game. That's another huge challenge. Like, they're not gonna just take some 40 year old washed up scrub. It's like, they're trying to win. So it's a huge challenge to take on to do it, but that is what's rolling around the back of my head right now. That's the next big thing for the channel. And besides that, is bringing the All Blacks to a tournament outside of what our Sunday night is. And that is one thing that I definitely want to do and that we're working on to figure out when are we gonna bring the squad on the road for hockey, but not roller hockey.
THE_BEER_LEAGUER:Actual ice hockey, okay. That should be super fun. So I guess square up against some other teams. And yeah, I'm just gonna encourage you again. I think you gotta do the, try the pro thing. I think you gotta put as much, I don't know, as much try as you can behind it. If there's anything me and I will, I'll make it sound really big. Me and the entire Beer Leaguer network can help you with. We will, to encourage this. Because I think that would be a great thing to try and do. I mean, you are, obviously you're in pretty good hockey shape. You're playing three nights a week. Yeah, and I feel great. That helps.
SPEAKER_3:Yeah, but if I get hurt doing that. So, and this also stems from, we did an episode where we took like an all-star beer league team out to Jackson Hole and played against Jackson Hole Moose, which is called Senior A Hockey, which is full contact, retired, a couple of college guys, mainly, like juniors. There's a few pros in there, but it's full contact. And I was worried about going to that game, and then I loved every second of it. I actually did hurt my back a little bit, but I hurt my back shooting a puck. It was the weakest injury I've ever had in my entire life. But I limped through the two games, and I was just like, hey, I just got through a full contact Senior A game completely fine.
THE_BEER_LEAGUER:I could do another pro game.
SPEAKER_3:I'm like, I could totally do it. So that's where subconsciously it started to roll when we went out to Jackson Hole. That was a great time. We're going to do that again. We're also doing that again this year in February.
THE_BEER_LEAGUER:Awesome. Okay. Well, I look forward to seeing the Road to the Pros series.
SPEAKER_4:Road to the Pros.
THE_BEER_LEAGUER:I assume it's just going to be like you running in the street and stuff and-
SPEAKER_3:Lifting in my basement.
THE_BEER_LEAGUER:Just training montages and stuff like that.
SPEAKER_3:That's good for the short form right there. Now we're thinking of all the good stuff.
THE_BEER_LEAGUER:I'm excited for this content.
SPEAKER_3:Yeah. That's what's next, hopefully.
THE_BEER_LEAGUER:Awesome. All right. I think that's a great place to stop. That's fantastic. I don't know if we're going to be able to top that. I think that's a great tease for something that is coming. Yeah. You can't back out of it because I'm not cutting that out of this episode.
SPEAKER_3:So, yeah.
THE_BEER_LEAGUER:So, let's go ahead and put it out there.
SPEAKER_3:No problem. Ninety-five percent. Eighty-five percent.
THE_BEER_LEAGUER:You got to at least try.
SPEAKER_3:Yeah, you're right.
THE_BEER_LEAGUER:You got to at least try.
SPEAKER_3:You're totally right.
THE_BEER_LEAGUER:All right. Well, I'll wrap things up with that. Mike, thank you.
SPEAKER_3:Thank you for having me again. I really appreciated it.
THE_BEER_LEAGUER:Once again, everybody, Mike Steiner from Beers on Ice. Check them out on all of the platforms for all the different content that they have going out there. And make sure you subscribe to everything so you can see all the content for Road to the Pros that he's going to be doing. I'm calling it that now too. So that's it. There you go.
SPEAKER_3:Easy. I love the title.
THE_BEER_LEAGUER:So make sure you're watching for all that stuff. So we get the Rocky training montages.
SPEAKER_3:You're just doing all the work for me. You're getting my titles, you're getting the thumbnails, you're getting all the storyboards.
BEERS_ON_ICE:I got to get you on payroll now.
THE_BEER_LEAGUER:This is what I'm excited for. I'm excited to see all these things. I'll get you out in the streets with the other towel around your neck and everything and the sweatsuit running. Going by the West Side Market, high-fiving the vendors and stuff.
SPEAKER_3:I mean, wow. I've already gotten three videos right there, right off the hop, so I appreciate it.
THE_BEER_LEAGUER:See, so no reason to not do this now. It's practically done for you.
SPEAKER_3:Love it.
THE_BEER_LEAGUER:All right, well, thanks a lot, Mike. Thanks for joining the show. I'm sure we'll have you back on to talk about the outcomes of some of these things and how all this stuff went.
SPEAKER_3:Anytime.
THE_BEER_LEAGUER:All right. Thanks, everybody, for listening to this episode of The Beer Leaguer podcast. Catch you in the next one. Take care.
